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Re: Questions

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:24 pm
by TPK - The Pirates
Nolien to Mhelliviene had value of 3 GBs, only 2 GBs was actually gained due to lack of shipping.

Birmail indicates what the trade route value is up front. It then indicates how much of the capacity was actually gained based on ships (for sea routes -- land routes automatically receive full value).

I lost 2.5 GBs on the Riverford route and 2 GBs on the Mhelliviene route. Also .75 GBs on the Doom's Peak one. And also 1 GB from Puinol.

6.25 GBs was missed on and there was an entire discussion around it back then. Long story short, from then on I always maxed shipping capacity :)

Re: Questions

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:34 pm
by TPK - The Pirates
Riverford was a level 6 province.
Sidhuire, Mhelliviene and Nolien were all level 4 provinces.
Tradebhein was a level 2 province.
Doom's Peak, Puinol and Torien's Watch were all level 1 provinces.

Re: Questions

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:08 pm
by CIC - Duke Cicero
If "Sidhuire, Mhelliviene and Nolien were all level 4 provinces" then "Nolien to Mhelliviene had value of 3 GBs" is untrue. The value of the route is 4GB. You had ships to carry 2GB. Your income on the route that turn was 3GB - the 2GB of the route's value that you actually carried times 1.5 from the gold rush. If you had needed ships to carry the extra income, you would have only made 2GB off the route still.

Look, I'm not you, and I certainly wasn't you in that game - I was still messing around with temples back then. I'm just saying what the data you posted show.

Re: Questions

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:12 pm
by AaH - Avicerra al Hamam
Yes it looks like there were only 2 capacity | MB | Nolien - TN | Mhelliviene - CN | and 0 capacity | MB | Puinol - CN | Torien's Watch - LE |.

The 2 capacity gave 3 GB in income which is 50% higher. So it looks like you just need to have capacity for the original trade route.

Re: Questions

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:22 pm
by YK - Yuri Khavlor
I have found the time to crunch the numbers. As long as there is capacity to carry the cargo from the sea trade routes normally, the multiplied income from gold rush is received. Ships are not required to carry the Gold Rush income despite how it may appear on the turn report.

False alarm.

Re: Questions

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:37 pm
by DM Juan
That is what I thought...

Re: Questions

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:53 pm
by WM - The Waste Mage
So Guilders have been getting extra XP....I mean....GB this whole time? I would like to propose the rest of us get 20k GB to make it fair.

Re: Questions

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:04 pm
by YK - Yuri Khavlor
hmmm.. would be an interesting campaign if everyone is super wealthy. I suspect it would devolve into a game of mega thefts, until only a couple of ultra rich remain, too scared to make a display of wealth and be targeted by the couple remaining domain.

Re: Questions

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:06 pm
by CSF - Flint
Theft DC dropping and theft being very strong early game already has lead to a great deal of robbery this time around it seems.

Re: Questions

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:08 pm
by TH - The Hunt
I'm pretty sure Gold Rush is only supposed to increase a character's income after the total is known. So it shouldn't change because the fleet wasn't oversized.