Questions - Diaspora IV
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Before you invent such a houserule you should ask yourself how the Lvl1 wizard at start learns a spell if he has no spellbook at all and what will happen, if a wizard will loose his spellbooks and start anew. Instead of inventing again a complex process you just can use the learning check, preparation time and copying rules.
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You can learn a spell from another spell book (except in this game).DH - Dweomerheart wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:02 pmBut my case is: the wizard learn the spell in preparing it from another spellbound and making a Int % check. If he learns it he can cast it which erases the spell from his mind. Or he can write the spell down which will cost a lot and takes 1/2 days per lvl.
Learning a spell does NOT put it in your mind, that is the fluff describing the memorization process and using your slots.
You cannot cast a spell not memorized. (excepting magic item use of course)
You cannot memorize a spell if you don't have a spell slot
You cannot put a spell in a spell slot if you don't have it in your spell book (and access to your spell book)
You cannot add a spell to your spellbood you do not understand
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When a wizard learns a spell, they know it permanently. Oddly enough, this suggests that if a wizard loses their spellbook, they can recreate it (at least, functionally) from memory, with enough time and resources, without any need for access to other written materials or outside sources of information.
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A level 1 wizard, knows a bunch of spells upon becoming a wizard.DH - Dweomerheart wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:10 pmBefore you invent such a houserule you should ask yourself how the Lvl1 wizard at start learns a spell if he has no spellbook at all and what will happen, if a wizard will loose his spellbooks and start anew. Instead of inventing again a complex process you just can use the learning check, preparation time and copying rules.
If he has no spellbook, he recreates it. If he is in the middle of an adventure, he is screwed. (similar to priest a losing a holy symbol)
How is the current process more complex, then having to roll a % for every spell know?
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Wizard realm spells work the same way, except that instead of filling pages in a spellbook, each one fills an entire set of books. (They take a whole month to prepare and cast, so there must be a lot of notes to read through.)
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A misunderstanding- Iam not speaking about the simplified process from BR Game but about the process from phb.
If a wizard can simply recreate his spellbook, that would mean he has information about all his spells inside where? Normally the information is erased with casting the spell and he has to prepare again to know all the detailed information and casting it again.
So if he has still spells in his mind, he perhaps can recreatew them but what about the spells he has not prepared? He need his spellbook to rememorize them and that is gone? What I mean is, it is easier to assume, that if he has a spell prepared he can write it down, if not he has to seek it from somewhere else again.
Or where do you read the information in PHB or DMG that a wizard can recreate his spellbook if he has lost it from nothing- it is stated that he is vulnerable and depends on them.
If a wizard can simply recreate his spellbook, that would mean he has information about all his spells inside where? Normally the information is erased with casting the spell and he has to prepare again to know all the detailed information and casting it again.
So if he has still spells in his mind, he perhaps can recreatew them but what about the spells he has not prepared? He need his spellbook to rememorize them and that is gone? What I mean is, it is easier to assume, that if he has a spell prepared he can write it down, if not he has to seek it from somewhere else again.
Or where do you read the information in PHB or DMG that a wizard can recreate his spellbook if he has lost it from nothing- it is stated that he is vulnerable and depends on them.
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wizard realm spells are normally a complete other thing then normal spells (BR original rules)- they are more like a ritual and have the worth of powerfull magic items instead of that of a simple magic missile. Thats the reason you can´t copy them easily etc.
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A wizard has a list of spells known. These are the spells they may add to their spell book, it takes time and resources to do so. They can have multiple spell books. especially if you have a game that enforces the size and weight of spellbook.
A wizard has spell slots: These are spells that have been prepared from a spellbook and can be cast that day. You want to cast Fireball twice? you need to memorize it twice.
A wizard has spell slots: These are spells that have been prepared from a spellbook and can be cast that day. You want to cast Fireball twice? you need to memorize it twice.
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Nor can you copy regular spells easily. The DMG, Complete Wizards, and Spells and Magic all indicate it takes time (typically two weeks per spell level in an uninterrupted environment).
Juan allows for 1 to 2 days per spell level, again in an interview environment.
You're adventuring, you didn't bring your lab, library, and research materials.
He was clear and succint. It is in line with all previous rulings on spell acquisition. So let's drop it and move on.
Juan allows for 1 to 2 days per spell level, again in an interview environment.
You're adventuring, you didn't bring your lab, library, and research materials.
He was clear and succint. It is in line with all previous rulings on spell acquisition. So let's drop it and move on.
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From phb: Whenever a wizard discovers instructions for a spell he doesn't know, he can try to read and understand the instructions. The player must roll percentile dice.
You don´t have the spell completely in mind instead you understand it- if you understand a poem you can´t recite it perfectly and exactly this is needed to cast a spell or put the documentation in a spell book so that you can prepare a spell and later cast a spell.
So you have to understand the spell from another spelbook but need the spellbook so you can prepare it and put it exactly to mind with all details and words. You can copy from other spellbooks but never can just recreate a spellbook from thin air because you lost most of the detailed knowledge inside. Except the DM rules otherwise of course.
You don´t have the spell completely in mind instead you understand it- if you understand a poem you can´t recite it perfectly and exactly this is needed to cast a spell or put the documentation in a spell book so that you can prepare a spell and later cast a spell.
So you have to understand the spell from another spelbook but need the spellbook so you can prepare it and put it exactly to mind with all details and words. You can copy from other spellbooks but never can just recreate a spellbook from thin air because you lost most of the detailed knowledge inside. Except the DM rules otherwise of course.