Blooding LTs

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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by LMC - Lord Mayor Cowell » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:00 pm

BC - King Baron Corbin wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:57 pm
but there is an NPC with the Tighmaveril spear that had and bloodline of 0 that awoke one when he killed someone with the spear. Maybe I am remembering it wrong
There seem to be a certain randomness in it aswell. There are npc´s who when they killed an awsheglien ended up getting part of his bloodline each despite neither actually hitting with a bloodthefting attack even (chimera and Binman, after killing the.. Iron troll I think was the name)

So you can propably find lore support for most of the options.

But I changed my mind and mostly agree with Pyr. Should need to bloodtheft or transfer the entirety of a bloodline to create a new blooded.
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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by TH - The Hunt » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:02 pm

I don't find it elegant to have Class A and Class B bloodlines. It makes more sense to me to have only first-order ones. But, yeah, the bit about the bloodsilver weapons being able to give an unblooded character a bloodline makes sense, too. Especially since bloodsilver normally allows bloodtheft without a heart-piercing deathblow, so a heart-piercing deathblow with a bloodsilver weapon sounds like the True Love's First Kiss of usurpation.
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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by TH - The Hunt » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:06 pm

'Regency storm' is another way to get bloodlines I saw on the wiki, that can lead to more than one person getting a bloodline if they're close to a sufficiently powerful blooded character who dies. Like what happened at Deismaar but smaller-scale. Dunno how canonical it is here, but that was the explanation for Eimhir's family being so depressed after acquiring the bloodline they left Innishire and went to sea.
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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by WB - Water's Blessing » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:15 pm

Py - Pyroneous wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:20 pm
I think you shouldn't be able to Blood anyone. Should only be able to be Blooded by birth or Bloodtheft. Being able to manufacture blooded people cheapens it. Can give a 10% chance a recruited LT has blood. Can add a LT "for hire" post. Blooded LTs available on the post for GB. (GB sink!) They have alignments and their own personalities and random levels.
As a person who was planning on blooding their LT this turn, I'm good with us not being allowed to do it.

EDIT: It would require me to rework the turn a bit then, though...
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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by HBH - Bloodmage » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:32 pm

I subscribe to the Py Guy post as well. Shouldn't be able to do it.
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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by JB - Jontinius Bruin » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:45 pm

Yeah I am fine either way blood easy or blood hard

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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by DM Juan » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:54 pm

I lean towards #1 now, you cannot. Great Captain or kids born in game or random graduates from Academies, that will be announced as hireable.

Note you want a blooded LT quick? Adopt a gnoll! Heh.

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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by MaH - Meganno al Hamam » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:29 am

I see no problem with having Ltn. a bloodline, because you need a bloodline to be wizard and it would be unfair to not allow that for Ltn. I would suggest the following:

1. Ltn. wizards can cast Realm spells using the Bloodline of his master and rule sources with the RP of his master- then you don´t need a bloodline for a wizard Ltn. In this case point 1. is ok- Ltn. don´t need a bloodline
2. Ltn. wizards can only cast Realm spells, if they are blooded- in this case I find it generally not fair, if Ltns. can´t have a bloodline- Ltn. from other classes can do all actions for there masters, only wizards Ltn. can´t.... so it would be unfair also to ask 1 DP for Ltn. of wizards to help them

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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by LMC - Lord Mayor Cowell » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:34 am

I was under the impression that priest LT´s also needed a bloodline to cast realmspells, this not so?
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Re: Blooding LTs

Post by WB - Water's Blessing » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:14 am

It should just be hard and highly sought-after to find a blooded wizard LT. Birthright is supposed to be a low-magic setting, after all. I don't consider it at all unfair to wizards to put this restriction in place (and, as noted previously, I was planning on blooding a LT this turn, because I am playing a wizard). Raises the challenge level a bit, sure, but challenge is what makes the game fun.
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