Levying Provinces

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Re: Levying Provinces

Post by WB - Water's Blessing » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:16 pm

AV - Adriyan Vaslav wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:57 pm
Again, it just would have been nice to know all of the changes that were going to be made to the rules BEFORE we'd started setting up realms, let alone taking turns. Getting blindsided by a rules change after you've got everything going is not a nice feeling.
I had to change my turn because of a rules change too. It's the nature of the game - it's always in "beta".
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Re: Levying Provinces

Post by AaH - Avicerra al Hamam » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:23 pm

And compared to all other free actions this was the only one where you could remove a enemy pressens without failing. Yes it could come with a cost if you had other Holdings at max but a realm rule could get you back while the other regent had to use create holding and then compete or rule.

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Re: Levying Provinces

Post by TH - The Hunt » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:31 pm

Reduce, not remove... Province level reduction (by any means) can never reduce a holding below level 0, unless occupation is used (with Declare War) to impose martial law so the holding can be destroyed with a war move.
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Re: Levying Provinces

Post by WB - Water's Blessing » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:38 pm

Yep. The advantage of it is that it automatically works, and that the target regent can't spend RP to oppose it.
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Re: Levying Provinces

Post by TPK - The Pirates » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:12 pm

Turn 10
Province 4
Temple 1
Enemy Temple 3

Action 1:
Levy province
Province 3
Temple 1
Enemy Temple 2

Action 2:
Disband Levy
Rule Temple
Province 4
Temple 2
Enemy Temple 2

Repeat in Turn 11
Now Enemy Temple is level 1 and mine is Level 3


No contest effort needed.
Only outlay was for ruling temple up.
Morale loss countered by Leadership NWP.


Definitely was cheesy and I admit I happily utilized it after Graven lost holdings permanently due to internal levying for a war (wouldn't have known about it otherwise).

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Re: Levying Provinces

Post by TH - The Hunt » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:18 pm

Haha, yeah that's one of those things where even the stupidest, most obedient peasants would start to get wary. 'Prepare for war! Never mind. Your jobs are gone? Join our religion. Prepare for war! Never mind. Your jobs are gone? Join our religion."
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Re: Levying Provinces

Post by JB - Jana Boulderbrew » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:54 am

I would make levy province have lasting issues. Something like the level of the province is lowered by 1 permanently. The province owner could rule province next summer with a +2 per levy troop returned to their homes.

Also make the holding that goes down be random.
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Re: Levying Provinces

Post by LMC - Lord Mayor Cowell » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:01 am

HD - Halaur Duin wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:54 am
I would make levy province have lasting issues. Something like the level of the province is lowered by 1 permanently. The province owner could rule province next summer with a +2 per levy troop returned to their homes.

Also make the holding that goes down be random.
there is no real reason for that, and it would be so illogical. You could make wich holding is lowered random I suppose. Or make the lowered province immune to ruling for the remainder of the turn.

I would like to say make it immune to contests too for the remainder, but that opens up to another abuse, levying your own provinces to protect them from other people´s contests.
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