Kn Rule Feedback

[AaH - Avicerra al Hamam]

Removed the auto-temple increase from Population Growth

I dont like at all changes done to spells in the middle of the round when they affect the balance of the game. If you have planed to be a none landed priest for example your whole strategy around population growth is now falling apart. I have nothing against changes but before you choose your class and race you should know what will await you. Now the races with low movement costs have an even bigger advantage than the slow races as population growth will not be cast as often. Especially if you take long life (as we could choose a blood ability) combined with gnolls or goblins. I have no problem in making it more difficult to rule provinces but not in the middle of a game.

[HaQ - Hakim al-Qadr]

It's not more difficult. You just don't get a free temple level out of it. Which I think was egregious to have been included in the first place. You would have spent the RP you spend on Population Growth on the Rule Temple anyway. It was basically free.

[AaH - Avicerra al Hamam]

The costs is different now as you have to ask more RP and GP otherwise you are casting population growth on others for free wasting your action. So there will be less demand for it and the none landed prist strategy is much less viable than before the change. I dont argue with that it should npt be changed but it should not be done after we have started a game and people are commited.

[FTC - Khair]

We should have taken more time between the games, to iron out a few of these issues.
As a priest, I am fine with the changes.

[WM - The Waste Mage]

Should we restart and let everyone remake their characters with the new rule changes?

[DM Juan]

no

[DM Juan]

Bless: Universal
All Others (including Improved Bless): a maximum of 5 faiths can take the spell.

A concept that forces faiths to consider carefully when they take spells, and also creates complimentary faiths, since some faiths may be Population Growth based, whereas others are Improved Bless based, or whatever else.
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Is there a lot of concern that this will result in penalized faiths who don't "grow fast"?

I am also looking at variant versions of Population Growth, that will count as Pop-Growth for the above limitations.

No one has any Realm Spells yet, so if we are making changes we should do it now.

[AaH - Avicerra al Hamam]

I dont think this is fair as it depends on who has quick build the shrine and not the first rounds. If you have encountered others who you can use their shrine you will have another huge advantage. If you can not take bless as a spell plague will be auto loss of province levels. With the reduction of population growth you should not reduce the power of priests even more. Compared to what a mage can do if they cant cast bless there is not much interesting left.

[AaH - Avicerra al Hamam]

Instead of limiting the few good spells that a priest has rather do what you did in revising some of the existing ones. Many of them will never be casted in a game. I like some of the changes you have made for the 4 spells you mentioned.

[WM - The Waste Mage]

Bless: Universal

(Means everyone can take it.)

All Others (including Improved Bless): a maximum of 5 faiths can take the spell.

Only IMPROVED Bless is included in those that only 5 faiths can take. So everyone can take Bless and counter Death Plague.