Undefined how to bid - Subversion
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
Without this new priest defense magic, it would not be possible that one army can ignore all wizards and conquer all with force in a few turns- one example about unbalancing the game- and the joy of most conquered players.
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
Priest defense magic? They are talking the wizard subversion spell.
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
And any army can be stopped --- if there are people willing to stand against it and not just add to it's power.
The price of freedom is not paid for with flowers and rainbows![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
The price of freedom is not paid for with flowers and rainbows
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
If they had pre cast the anti subversion spell, it is pretty obvious this conversation would not have come up...
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
What if the rainbows in question happen to form a very hypnotic pattern?
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
Those are special rainbows, probably from whatever is being ingested/smoked locally!
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
Yeah, flowers and rainbows CAN be the price of freedom, but they'd better be some exceptionally nasty flowers and outrageously trippy rainbows.
I don't see how 'Subversion is a better Defection' when Subversion only allows you to give units a single instruction (where you can't even control how they carry it out) while Defection lets you use the units as if they were your own for an extended period.
#3 seems to be the best match for my interpretation. I don't think it's a big deal, as Subversion is a level-1 spell... it shouldn't be the keystone of anyone's strategy, it should be a light touch where the defender isn't sure whether resistance is worth the effort, that can be used creatively to produce unexpected effects.
I don't see how 'Subversion is a better Defection' when Subversion only allows you to give units a single instruction (where you can't even control how they carry it out) while Defection lets you use the units as if they were your own for an extended period.
#3 seems to be the best match for my interpretation. I don't think it's a big deal, as Subversion is a level-1 spell... it shouldn't be the keystone of anyone's strategy, it should be a light touch where the defender isn't sure whether resistance is worth the effort, that can be used creatively to produce unexpected effects.
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
It is better in some regards (can affect far more troops) and worse in others (can be bid against).
Agreed it should not be the cornerstone/lynchpin of a defense.
Agreed it should not be the cornerstone/lynchpin of a defense.
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Face each day like a storm;
Respect it;
Fear it;
Endure it;
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Fear it;
Endure it;
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Re: Undefined how to bid - Subversion
Subversion also has interesting applications like, if used during neutral times it looks like the other regent did the action.