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Re: Questions

Post by AaH - Avicerra al Hamam » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:52 pm

SAS - Survivors at Sea wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:42 pm
FYI to other rookie guilders. Goldrush benefits trade routes, but sea trade only benefits if you have the ship capacity. So assign extra ships before you get the benefit of the spell.

I left some money on the table, and won't be making that mistake again.
I dont think that is correct. The line with what you gain from the gold rush just summerises the extra gold from holdings and provinces. No trade route bonuses from gold rush are added there. If you look at the income of the trade route you will see that it is 50% higher than normal. At least this happened to me. Some of the trade routes had extra capacity and some did not. Birmail gives you the full 50% bonus.

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Re: Questions

Post by TPK - The Pirates » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:01 pm

Trade routes get boosted by Gold Rush. You have to have the extra ships to carry the capacity.

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Post by AaH - Avicerra al Hamam » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:19 pm

TPK - The Pirates wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:01 pm
Trade routes get boosted by Gold Rush. You have to have the extra ships to carry the capacity.
I am just telling what birmail is doing. You get full bonus from Gold Rush even if you dont have enough ships assigned to the trade routes. The line in the turn report that tells you what income you get from gold rush is bugged. It summerises only province and holding income. A trade route that normaly gets 2GB income is noted with 3 GB income under gold rush.

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Re: Questions

Post by TPK - The Pirates » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:22 pm

Check your ships, it will flag as 'only able to carry X of Y amount' or something similar.

You may have had enough shipping capacity to not be impacted as well.

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Post by AaH - Avicerra al Hamam » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:38 pm

The program just checks if you have enough for the trade route as you see in Karak Dum. The normal capacity needed is 3.5 but 5,25 GB was the value because of Gold Rush. I had some unasigned ships. Maybee birmail does use that capacity and if you dont have it you dont get the bonus GB. SAS can you check if that might have happened in your case?

Trade Routes:
| Owner: | From: | To: | Income: | Tax paid: | Notes: | Further Notes: |
| MM | Karak Dum(G) - LG | Egg of Coot(S) - LN | 5.25 - 0.0 | GG 0.0 BB 0.0 | Ships assigned carry 3.5 of 3.5GB | |
| MM | Pax Tharkas - LN | Earypeak - LN | 3.75 - 0.0 | RM 0.0 KT 0.0 | Ships assigned carry 2.5 of 2.5GB | |

Goldrush!!! Income has been modified. xx GB was gained ( less any tax paid ).

| Ship | Longship | Blackmoor Castle(S) - LN | 0.33 | 0 | 7 | 1.0 | (MM) Karak Dum(G) - LG to Egg of Coot(S) - LN |
| Ship | Barge | Dor Faldur - LN | 0.0 | 0 | 43 | 3.0 | (MM) Karak Dum(G) - LG to Egg of Coot(S) - LN
| Ship | Longship | Dor Faldur - LN | 0.33 | 0 | 25 | 1.0 | (MM) Pax Tharkas - LN to Earypeak - LN |
| Ship | Barge | Earypeak - LN | 0.0 | 0 | 44 | 3.0 | (MM) Pax Tharkas - LN to Earypeak - LN

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Re: Questions

Post by TPK - The Pirates » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:45 pm

Karak Dum (4)
Egg of Coot (3)

Normal trade route = 3.5 GB (Gold Rush allows up to 5.25)

Pax Tharkas (2)
Earypeak (3)

Normal trade route - 2.5 GB (Gold Rush allows up to 3.75)

Your ships for each (a barge and a longship) allow for up to 4 GB off of each of those trade routes. So the Pax Tharkas one was fully utilized and the Karak Dum missed out on 1.25 GBs.

Down at the bottom of the page (before your income summary) it will list how much shipping capacity you were short).

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Re: Questions

Post by YK - Yuri Khavlor » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:51 pm

I'll double check when on Monday when i could put it through excel to suss out the expected results vs what is in the turn report.
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Re: Questions

Post by AaH - Avicerra al Hamam » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:00 pm

The shipping capacity was 17 that turn and it said I used 10 (none gold rush needed). So I had 7 capacity which was not used. Thats more than the Gold rush bonus. I also checked the total income I made was with the full trade route bonus from gold rush.

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Re: Questions

Post by TPK - The Pirates » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:03 pm

You had the shipping capacity though, that's the key difference.

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Re: Questions

Post by TPK - The Pirates » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:03 pm

Mhaellie was burned on this three/four games back in Taelshore.

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